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    1. therapsida: catamite: therapsida: catamite: I’ll just leave this here for anyone who was still confused. (ATTN. RADSCUM) Not all CAFAB trans folks have male privilege though Their gender ID and presentation may not be “masculine” in any sense, and they can be read as women, even if that’s not their gender. [EDIT] Or even a trans guy who ID’s as male but who isn’t out of the closet and presents as normatively female would not have male privilege. Oh god, not this argument again. (Sorry to take this attitude but god am I weary of this. I have been over this so many times with so many people.) Yes, obviously this is a GROSSLY simplified graph. But there are at least two basic aspects to any sort of privilege— privileges accorded one in society and internal sense of entitlement. What messages one internalizes is a big part of privilege. Flip side of what you’re saying is that CAMAB people who are “masculine” or not out have male priv which is super problematic. Please read. I’m not willing to engage further on this topic at the moment than I just did, but I am sure some kind of flame war will start in the reblogs of this post. Knock yourselves out, y’all. ETA: passing privilege is not the same as cis privilege. UGH. Velocidarling just had a more nuanced and better version of what I said, so Wait and I’m confused about what you mean about passing and cis privilege? I agree that they’re not the same thing but what does that have to do with what I said? I do hear what you’re saying about internalizing messages and how that’s related to privilege, which is not something I considered in my original post, which would grant male privilege to trans guys who are not out. Still think it’s inaccurate to lump all CAFAB trans people under the male privilege banner. If you don’t want to discuss it, I respect your decision, though I’d like to hear your response. Other people wanna weigh in? I feel like CAMAB people and transwomen would also have knowledge of or experience in male privilege due to being assigned to the male sex at birth which. This automatically changes how they’ve experienced the world. Because really, privilege and societal pressures start the moment the doctor tells the parents “he has a penis”.  They do lose their privilege though once they present as who they are, and in this case, likely female but that doesn’t erase memories of having been privileged by either the recipients or those who originally impressed it upon them. Conversely CAFAB people were not born to instantly share in male privilege. If they are presenting as male later in life they will take on some of it but again, this doesn’t erase previous life experience or memories of the recipients or those who originally impressed the privileges or lackthereof upon them.To simplify everyone into neat little boxes effectively erases all previous human experience of these people and that erasure is dangerous not only to those who have always lacked privilege, but to those who lost their privilege and even to those who have gained privilege and on top of that and it erases them. Privilege isn’t some clean cut black and white situation. A CAFAB person may still be presenting as female, and thus they would be granted cis privilege according to the interpretations of the majority. To imply that a CAMAB person who is still representing as male in a world where male privilege is dominant is not experiencing male privilege is disingenous.  

      therapsida:

      catamite:

      therapsida:

      catamite:

      I’ll just leave this here for anyone who was still confused. (ATTN. RADSCUM)

      Not all CAFAB trans folks have male privilege though

      Their gender ID and presentation may not be “masculine” in any sense, and they can be read as women, even if that’s not their gender.

      [EDIT] Or even a trans guy who ID’s as male but who isn’t out of the closet and presents as normatively female would not have male privilege.

      Oh god, not this argument again. (Sorry to take this attitude but god am I weary of this. I have been over this so many times with so many people.)

      Yes, obviously this is a GROSSLY simplified graph.

      But there are at least two basic aspects to any sort of privilege— privileges accorded one in society and internal sense of entitlement. What messages one internalizes is a big part of privilege. Flip side of what you’re saying is that CAMAB people who are “masculine” or not out have male priv which is super problematic.

      Please read.

      I’m not willing to engage further on this topic at the moment than I just did, but I am sure some kind of flame war will start in the reblogs of this post. Knock yourselves out, y’all.

      ETA: passing privilege is not the same as cis privilege. UGH.

      Velocidarling just had a more nuanced and better version of what I said, so

      Wait and I’m confused about what you mean about passing and cis privilege? I agree that they’re not the same thing but what does that have to do with what I said?

      I do hear what you’re saying about internalizing messages and how that’s related to privilege, which is not something I considered in my original post, which would grant male privilege to trans guys who are not out. Still think it’s inaccurate to lump all CAFAB trans people under the male privilege banner.

      If you don’t want to discuss it, I respect your decision, though I’d like to hear your response. Other people wanna weigh in?

      I feel like CAMAB people and transwomen would also have knowledge of or experience in male privilege due to being assigned to the male sex at birth which. This automatically changes how they’ve experienced the world. Because really, privilege and societal pressures start the moment the doctor tells the parents “he has a penis”.  They do lose their privilege though once they present as who they are, and in this case, likely female but that doesn’t erase memories of having been privileged by either the recipients or those who originally impressed it upon them. Conversely CAFAB people were not born to instantly share in male privilege. If they are presenting as male later in life they will take on some of it but again, this doesn’t erase previous life experience or memories of the recipients or those who originally impressed the privileges or lackthereof upon them.

      To simplify everyone into neat little boxes effectively erases all previous human experience of these people and that erasure is dangerous not only to those who have always lacked privilege, but to those who lost their privilege and even to those who have gained privilege and on top of that and it erases them. 

      Privilege isn’t some clean cut black and white situation. A CAFAB person may still be presenting as female, and thus they would be granted cis privilege according to the interpretations of the majority. To imply that a CAMAB person who is still representing as male in a world where male privilege is dominant is not experiencing male privilege is disingenous.  

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      1. yes-ze-did reblogged this from undercoverterrorist and added:
        Oh fantastic. I like being referred to as a male just because I’m not cis and I’m FAAB. You know, I wasn’t going to blog...
      2. filth-is-my-politics reblogged this from undercoverterrorist
      3. delineatingkaj reblogged this from dandytrans
      4. fromsullenearth reblogged this from ryan-on-bass and added:
        I totally get the difference that you’re talking about, but I think that it’s really only a difference of degree. Both...
      5. dandytrans reblogged this from therapsida and added:
        A couple of things related to comments: not identifying as a woman =/= not identifying as feminine masculine and...
      6. twelvefootmountaintroll reblogged this from inflateablefilth and added:
        Lolololololo Okay, listen up. I’m male-assigned. I don’t identify as cis. I also get quite a few aspects of male...
      7. corrupter-of-words reblogged this from femmesandfamily and added:
        intersecting privileges~~let’s unpack them, shall we?
      Reblogged: therapsida
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